How can we better deal with radical Islam and the fear and support it generates ?
We can insist on less confusion about what is taught or can be taught in the name of Islam or its Sects.
Reducing confusion by being more clear –Clear
So like all institutions, there are variations
of opinion about what it is to be a member of a group.
The way the West has
resolved this for centuries is to have a constitutional document which the
group itself defines what is essential to be in or out of the group. It allows
freedom but within limits that help both insiders and outsiders to know what
The constitution is not just binding – it helps us relate to each
other better -both insiders and outsiders. New associations, including those who
want to call themselves religious ( like Patriots, Non deterministic Atheists) are
best to create their very own constitution if they want to avoid unnecessary fear
,ridicule , anger and schism . We the audience can’t know where all new ideas
are coming from, but it helps if left
field groups help themselves and make it easier for us to know when or why we
might listen-- by constitution connection.
Australian Christians are and always have been happy to accept the critical
role of constitutional documents and specifically lobbied ( eg Fairfax) for the
AC to proclaim freedom for all faiths to have their own –even outside
Australia. This is the case throughout Western history and reflects the initial
first book understanding of Judeo-Christians that all me are born under God to
make their own decisions about their lives ; The critical constitutional
documents for Christians are well known,
studied and criticized in and
outside institutions ; for nearly 2 thousand years. To help clarity further Constitutions
close to Christian are called Sects.
Why don’t Muslims call ISIS a Sect ?
Clearly Christians celebrate the separation of church and State .”My kingdom is
not of this world “ Jesus said. This means that for most Christians, political action of the church must be first and foremost an expression of
the work of individuals and they alone should drive any concerted action – not
that of the church – His church .
Would it not be helpful if Muslims too made clear how they understand the way
they individually and collectively get involved in the State?
Maybe it’s time for all religious groups to do the same and restate the way
they relate to State issues?
The nervous, apparently non-religious public?
What most thinking people are against is confusion of fact and logic about what
is religious. We cant do much about the fear of terrorists but we can do something
to reduce the fear and ignorance about what its taught. It’s not just politicians who have a problems
here. The majority of the West have lost touch with their religious roots .(their
radical elements) This lost
understanding is clear to anyone who studies both the talk and the action of
groups like the far right ; it’s clear
their understanding of what it means to
be a real Christian is not clear. Get rid of unnecessary confusion .
New religious groupings
Any parties who want to claim ownership of Christian culture (not so rare in
Europe at the moment) must face the dilemma that , true believers go from extreme right to far left in most
countries .Patriots only own the Christian position as far as they themselves
individually own the known Christian constitution . In not accepting the
separation of church and state it appears some Patriots cannot represent the Christian constitution.
the Patriots, say in Poland at the moment, speak
of being in a Christian country, they are talking much more to culture not
constitution. Because they are seeking associations they find it easy not to
define their own. They are often not clear whether why are talking culture or
constitution. Like Italian cooking is a cultural
thing, its boundaries do not need a constitution. For most Christians the
place of culture in their constitution and that of our government is a
controversial thing (See Christ and Culture – R Neibuhr; )
What our society needs ( is not more fear and confusion that we are being fed)
is to be more reminded of things that are clear; about SOLID matters of constitution.
It’s the constitutional documents that give us
confidence to talk freely and more deeply about our differences. We can do all this as before because Western culture asserts the individual’s freedom with the limits of the
words in the appropriate constituting body.
It’s in the constitutional documents
that we can talk to real conflict and resolve to agree to disagree or meet and act separately.
Constitutional documents should interest Patriots, conservative Christians and all
thinkers alike—yet we are being denied them – by lack of pressure and focus by politicians
like George Brandis. Some conservative Christians don’t want to talk about
killing instructions in the Old Testament but we make them. Let’s be fair and
expect a minimum level of rational discussion and reduced labeling of religious
It’s in the woof and warp of Western culture at its best to hold people to
account for their words and the words of their constituting groups. According
to clear Christian practice for thousands of years we have to be very careful
how we speak about individuals but there “all hell “is permissible to throw at
institutions. Political animals ( including media) do not generally like this teaching if there is
conflict between them and us. The truth can find itself on a very lonely road.
Reducing Confusion Why we expect more clarity
and accuracy from the Australian government
a bad day for the religious
radicals of one group to not answer the tough questions asked of them.
It’s a very much worse day for the whole
world when the West hasn’t got the courage to ask the tough questions in
the first place – and expect answers or
say .as Christians can be expected to in relation to some Levitical laws )
We expect our leaders to ask Muslims to clarify clearly if there are any
matters of conflict with their faith and the Australian constitution . It is NOT
enough to just talk of radical and moderate groups . Constitutional clarification could be
expected to make relations between migrants and the people more rational and
clear and reduce the tension created by the current unnecessary uncertainty.
my opinion, many of us who welcome the strong moral focus warm hospitality and hard
work of Muslims would want this.
We don’t expect our leaders to speak for Christians or to assume that Australia
is a “ Christian country ( another careless and unacceptable inaccuracy) We do expect
and support our leaders to say that long time faithful supporters of the Australian
constitution are those who publish their constitution. The
Christian constitution fully and clearly upholds the Australian constitution
and we expect all other religious groups to say so clearly in theirs.
Wednesday, May 31, 2017
Some of our Australian leaders have been making basic errors of logic in saying that its only radical forms of religion that are the ones at issue. This cannot be so. Mother Teresa is a radical Christian, just as Francis of Assisi was.
Most Christians would warmly accept the above persons as Christians. What happened to Jesus politically and what he said, testify that he was an earthshaking radical.
To a generation of Westerners who largely denied the power of religion (their own parents faith), this real power of religion comes as surprise. No matter- reactionaries abound but who is sound ?I assert its the sustainable reliable and predictable nature of the Christian constitution that can and should now form a focus of confidence as it has done right through the centuries. You don’t have to agree with it to accept these realities about it.( as TS Eliot says below) At least we know from thousands of years of history what a believer is expected to do to conform and not be punished or excluded.